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Friday, November 03, 2006

 

Ted Haggard acknowledges some allegations

Associate Pastor, Ross Parsley says there is something to these allegations in an interview and email to the church. A voice recognition expert believes the voice on Mike Jone's voicemail is indeed Ted Haggard. The accuser, Mike Jones, failed the first polygraph but the examiner said that fatigue and emotion may have played a role and they will try again. I am getting emails from men I have worked with in counseling who are troubled by the story. Some because it brings up their own struggles; others are saying they remember what this kind of time was like and they really feel for him and his family.

UPDATES:
1. Focus on the Family, also based in Colorado Springs, issues press release.
2. Haggard says he bought meth and received a massage from Jones.

Comments:
About using meth: "Haggard said he never consumed it but threw it away. "I was tempted. I bought it but I never used it," Haggard said.

Reminds me of Clinton saying he tried pot but didn't inhale.
 
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Haggard makes some rather... odd claims about himself. At best, he's led a very interesting life. At worst, he's completely delusional:

He was always on the lookout for spies. At the time, Colorado Springs was a small city split between the Air Force and the New Age, and the latter, Pastor Ted believed, worked for the devil. Pastor Ted soon began upsetting the devil's plans. He staked out gay bars, inviting men to come to his church; his whole congregation pitched itself into invisible battles with demonic forces, sometimes in front of public buildings. One day, while he was working in his garage, a woman who said she'd been sent by a witches' coven tried to stab Pastor Ted with a five-inch knife she pulled from a leg sheath; Pastor Ted wrestled the blade out of her hand. He let that story get around. He called the evil forces that dominated Colorado Springs—and every other metropolitan area in the country—“Control.”

Sometimes, he says, Control would call him late on Saturday night, threatening to kill him. “Any more impertinence out of you, Ted Haggard,” he claims Control once told him, “and there will be unrelenting pandemonium in this city.” No kidding! Pastor Ted hadn't come to Colorado Springs for his health; he had come to wage “spiritual war.”

So he stakes out gay bars, claims to have fended off a hit-witch, and hears a voice calling itself "Control." What do you want to bet there's no police report and he threw away the knife along with his unused meth?
 
Some people just live interesting lives. Gladstone preached to prostitutes and sometimes (many historians believe) had sex with them.
The guy truly believes that homosexuality is a sin. Yet he suffers from this 'vice' to some degree (this raises my earlier unanswered question about bisexuality in men). It doesn't make him a hypocrite. It just makes him a guy trying to battle his 'demons' while trying to stay faithful to his faith.
 
Anonymous said: "It doesn't make him a hypocrite. It just makes him a guy trying to battle his 'demons' while trying to stay faithful to his faith."

What? If he did what he is being accused of, he certainly is a hypocrite. This man preached from the pulpit that homosexuality is sin whle he's doing it? That's not trying to be faithful to his faith, let alone his church or his wife and kids. Sounds like he was trying to get his jollies while putting on a good act and remaining faithful to no one.
 
"He staked out gay bars, inviting men to come to his church?"

How does one stake out a gay bar? Did he try to blend in? Did he pretend to be gay to throw them off guard? Buy drinks but throw them away? Maybe he just went in to use the restroom and didn't realize they were gay bars, like John Paulk.
 
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Some people just live interesting lives. Gladstone preached to prostitutes and sometimes (many historians believe) had sex with them.

And I'm sure the local coven put out a contract on him, too.

How does one stake out a gay bar?

Probably from hiding, you know, so the witches don't getcha.
 
If the voice on the tape is indeed Ted Haggard's, it suggests that he bought speed more than one time:

"Hi Mike, this is Art," one call began, according to the report. "Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply."

He was calling to see if he could get MORE. Why? To be tempted again and throw more away?
 
More preditions: The evidence will show that Haggard made more than one meth purchase. He will admit he has a drug problem and will check into a rehab program before Thanksgiving. He will also have to admit that he got Jone's phone number, not from ther hotel, but from an ad in the back of a gay tabloid that he picked up on one of his "stake-outs" of gay bars in Denver (probably "Charlies"). Some of the "massages" had "happy endings", but he will still claim that it was not "sex".
 
Oh come on, how many times have we all driven from one city to another to see a gay escort we're not going to have sex with to buy meth we just throw away?
 
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